Episode 25: Experiences Being Profoundly Gifted, Part 1

Chris Wells & Emma Nicholson with guests Nth Bar-Fields and Joi Lin

Release date: January 3, 2023

In episode 25, Chris and Emma were joined by Nth Bar-Fields and Joi Lin. This fascinating and fun discussion was too long for one episode, so we’ve split it into two for your listening enjoyment!

Nth is a co-founder of Elysian Trust, and Joi is a doctoral student in Gifted Education Leadership at the University of Denver. Chris joined Nth and Joi in March 2022 for a panel session called Experiences Being Highly and Profoundly Gifted at the DU Gifted Education Policy Symposium and Conference. This episode is a product of that collaboration, and covers some of the same ground.

We talked about what it means to be profoundly gifted (PG), which we defined as the 99.9th percentile of intelligence. Joi and Nth introduced themselves and shared their PG journeys, and talked about the challenges involved in this difference. We also discussed breaking socialization and transcending boundaries as outliers, including what that means for gender identity and gender differences.

Part one concludes with a discussion of the various types of intuition. We discuss how intuitive thinking applies to being gifted and how this type of thinking can lead to challenges and impostor syndrome.

Make sure you join us again for part two of this conversation!

Nth's bio: Nathan “Nth” Bar-Fields is the founder of Elysian Trust. He originally worked in the nonprofit management sector. There, he helped organizations with worthwhile causes achieve their missions while remaining solvent. Aside from his past work as a fundraiser and data analyst for several organizations, he worked as a nuclear engineering tech for the US Navy and was a team leader for the think tanks, Idea-Connection and Hard Problems Consulting. Nth has been tested and studied for high-range cognitive abilities at U.C. Berkeley, MIT, and the University of Virginia—a few of which demonstrated the highest possible score on the tests administered.

Joi's bio: Joi Lin is finishing her last year as a PhD student of Gifted Education Leadership at the University of Denver, where she works to support the career development and well-being of the gifted, and the professionals who support us. And fun fact, Joi first met Dr. Chris Wells, in 2018, at an OEQ-II training offered by the Gifted Development Center.

Links for this episode

Elysian Trust

Experiences Being HG/PG Panel at DU’s 2022 GEPSC


Davidson Institute