Release date: April 15, 2025

Welcome to a very special episode of Positive Disintegration! For the first time ever, Chris and Emma sat down together in person to record—not virtually, not over Zoom or SquadCast, but face to face in the heart of Madison, Wisconsin. In this warm and unscripted special, we reflect on our friendship, the podcast’s evolution, and the joy (and awkwardness!) of finally being in the same room after three years of collaboration.

In this episode:

• Behind-the-scenes stories from Emma’s trip to the U.S.

• Meeting Michael Piechowski and getting hosted with tea and cookies

• Visiting the Henry Vilas Zoo, hanging out with James, Jason, and Jack—and, of course, the infamous hound dog, Champ

• Reflections on growth, healing, and laying new paths

• Creating the Positive Disintegration Network and dreaming forward into 2025

• How their work and friendship have evolved over years of podcasting together

• Early glimpses of new projects: cosmic cheer squad and PDA: Resistance and Resilience

✨ This is part one of a two-part special to our listeners—an intimate conversation full of laughter, reflection, and visioning for what’s next.

Links from this episode

Tragic Gift

Adults with Overexcitabilities

Upcoming podcasts Chris mentioned:

The cosmic cheer squad podcast is coming soon with Bee Mayhew from pragmagination

PDA: Resistance & Resilience is coming later this spring with Marni Kammersell from Wandering Brightly